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July 12, 2005

Islam: Killing Civilians is Okay

There are three articles which have just been published which I want to help to popularize today. I think that they're important and should be read by all. They help to define the problem which gave rise to the 9/11 bombings and have necessarily required us to enter the war on terror in self defense. These are no small issues. I encourage you, if you have a weblog, to make at least some kind of a post linking to these articles. Getting these articles into the consciousness of as many people as possible is important. These are not small issues. (Note.***) Articles #2 and #3 will be posted later in the day. Here is article #1:

Muslim Scholar: Killing civilians OK

Head of Islamic center in London responds to attack

Responding to questions about the terrorist attack on London, a Muslim scholar in the British capital asserted Islam makes no distinction between civilians and military targets.

"The term 'civilians' does not exist in Islamic religious law," said Hani Al-Siba'i, head of the Al-Maqreze Centre for Historical Studies in London.

Al-Siba'i, in an interview with the Arab news channel al-Jazeera, elaborated, "There is no such term as 'civilians' in the modern Western sense. People are either of Dar Al-Harb or not."

Dar Al-Harb refers to the Muslim concept of the world being divided into two "houses," the House of Islam and the remaining territories, the House of War, or Dar Al-Harb.


"If al-Qaida indeed carried out this act, it is a great victory for it," he said. "It rubbed the noses of the world's eight most powerful countries in the mud."


Al-Siba'i finally said al-Qaida could not be ruled out as the perpetrator.

He asserted the terrorist organization controls the "war agenda" in Iraq and "imposes its policies" on the Middle East.

As an example, he pointed out that al-Qaida's beheading of an Egyptian envoy prompted Cairo to lower its level of representation in Baghdad.

Let me interrupt here to make a point: this sort of appeasement must never be allowed here. Spain appeased the terrorists, now they've been bombed again today - possibly by a non al Qa'eda group. Their appeasement of terrorism after last year's train attack has given new hope to terrorists and would-be terrorists everywhere. And here we see this Muslim scholar saying that these types of attacts control the middle east. Is this how you want to live your life?


Asked whether he considered bin Laden a religious scholar who issues fatwas or the head of al-Qaida, Siba'i said, "First of all, he is one of this (Islamic) nation. ... We have no clergy or a pope, or anything like this. Anyone can carry out his religious duty, even if he is by himself."


The host argued that the religious law assembly in Mecca at the end of last month issued a fatwa forbidding the killing of civilians.

"Should we follow it or Osama bin Laden?" the host asked.

Al-Siba'i said, "These assemblies resemble the assemblies of the church. These assemblies forbid young people from going to Iraq to fight the jihad. ... The Higher Religious Authority (in Saudi Arabia) are the ones who allowed the presence of Crusader forces in the Land of the Two Holy Places (Saudi Arabia)."

So this is the face of the enemy. They are your enemy because they are targetting you (article #2, later today, will give rise to just how significantly you may already be targetted; 9/11 may be a drop in the bucket). This is a defensive war. 9/11 was a modern century "Pearl Harbor".

Don't give up. Above all, don't appease.

Note: These articles are not re-printed in their entirety. I'm very mindful of copyrights (the rights to copy) - violating peoples' rights is not part of my mindset; these are merely "fair use" excerpts from the articles which I consider most important. I encourage you to read the articles in their entirety, and to spread them through your own means.

Posted by Jeff at July 12, 2005 02:56 PM


killing is not ok but iraq we should just bomb them because they live and when they did bomb one of them problay knew that and they chould of spread a big big rumor but nooooooooo just because they didnt know who cares they still live there..........

Posted by: kayla davis at December 20, 2005 04:18 PM

my dear brother, who was behind the 9/11 attack was according to you a Muslim. He can never be a Muslim. Islam does not permit to kill innocents.

Christians have also killed many innocents.. let me remind you the case of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, when American launched nuclear attack upon Japan. When Adolf Hitler killed millions of Jews.

i know Christianity also does not permit to kill innocent people. I can not blame upon Christianity for the acts of USA and Adolf Hitler. At the same time Islam should not be blamed for the acts of others. Because i believe in Jesus Christ more than my Christian Brothers. I believe in Moses more than Jews do. Islam does not permit to abuse prophets. No muslim can deny other prophets nor their books.

Posted by: mohammad afroz athar at May 7, 2011 05:07 AM

=> my dear brother, who was behind the 9/11 attack was according to you a Muslim <=

For the record: I didn't say that in this article, and I'm not sure that I've ever said that.

I will say this, though: those who were behind the 9/11 attack CALLED THEMSELVES "Muslim". That's got to count for something.

Posted by: Jeff at May 7, 2011 05:45 AM

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