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November 21, 2005

Veterinarian and Neck Swelling, II

For review, my chameleon has had an issue lately with her neck being swelled up (see Neck Swelling):

Neck Swelling

When I searched the Internet, I found this type of swelling to be commonly mentioned, called "edema", and was attributed more often than not to over supplementing (i.e., powdering crickets, for example) leading to an excess of vitamin A. Well, I very rarely powder crickets for the chameleon. I prefer to rely almost exclusively upon gut loading the crickets for the chameleon's nutrition, so I only dust on those rare occasions when I'm feeding crickets to the chameleon without them being gut loaded. That's about 2-3 times per month.

However, my gut load may have too much vitamin A. My gut load has three parts: A) masticated greens, B) bee pollen, and C) dried egg yolk. The masticated greens (think applesauce, except made with greens instead of apples) include dandelion greens, collard greens, watercress, and endive. As it turns out, dandelion greens are very high in vitamin A. I said "may", however, because I've just taken the chameleon to the veterinarian, and the veterinarian doesn't find excess vitamin A to be a very good candidate. She's of the opinion that vitamin A problems come from supplements, not from natural sources. And she's of the opinion that all of the greens I am using are very, very healthy for the chameleon.

I had an x-ray done:

Veiled Chameleon x-ray
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You can see the ring around the chameleon's neck. In the top image, it appears as on each side. In the bottom image, it appears larger, and within it is a dark blob of an area which leads up, then turns sharply to the right toward the chameleon's abdomen. That, if I understood the veterinarian correctly, is the fluid that's been building up.

Anyway, although the immediate cause of the problem isn't known (and probably couldn't be known without some kind of invasive surgery), the best guess seems to be that the antecedent for the swelling is the pregnancy, which is getting quite severe. It may be sort of like the strange complications that many human females have when they're pregnant. You can compare the amount of space which is taken by the eggs now with the amount of space which was taken by them six months ago in the next image (you can tell the difference in the size of the chameleon as well):

Veiled Chameleon x-ray old and new
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The other possibility is that it does have to do with vitamin A excesses. With both of those possibilities in mind, I'll be giving the chameleon extra crickets in an effort to help her to develop her eggs as soon as possible, and I'll be offering the crickets a grain based gut load in addition to what they've been getting. The result will be reduced vitamin A going to the chameleon.

We'll see what happens.

Posted by Jeff at November 21, 2005 11:48 PM

Comments

i wondering if what to do for my chameleon who wont eat and is barely drinking any water?
She finally laid her eggs about a month ago and it took her about a month. She dug her hole and everything but afterwards she was still laying eggs. She finally stopped about a month ago and had started eating again but has stopped yet again.I dont know if i should get something to stimulate her appetite or what? She stays dark all the time her eyes are sunken in at times more so than others. Her fecal matter is yellow and white, is that healthy? She just always seems to be in the sleeping position and she is real weak. She still responds to being sprayed and doesnt like it very much. I dont know what to do for her. if i could get some help please. Should she be moved to a bigger tank? Her's is about 3x1x1 ft. she is about 7-8 months old.

Posted by: Sarah at November 22, 2005 08:44 PM


Sarah, the first thing you need to do is get that chameleon to the veterinarian. Expect to pay around $150.

Sunken eyes are caused from dehydration. If you can make her gape and hiss at you, you have an opportunity to squirt water directly into her mouth.

She may be eggbound. Perhaps there are still eggs inside her doing her in.

No, she shouldn't be moved to a bigger tank. A chameleon in ANY tank is a chameleon that is not being cared for properly. And a delicate species, like a chameleon, which is not being taken care of properly is a dead chameleon.

Should she be in a bigger *enclosure*, though? The answer is yes. In fact, I've never before encountered anyone who has had a chameleon in anything that small before. If she's been living in those conditions for 7-8 months, I'm surprised that she's made it this long (then again, having never known anyone to keep a chameleon in such small quarters, maybe I'm assuming too much here). Let me show you a few photos of what a chameleon's enclosure should look like:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/cham77/Fawn7mos.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/cham77/Cage3.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/cham77/Cage2.jpg

Those aren't mine, and they're about twice as wide as mine is. Mine, which is 6x2.5x2.5 feet, is, in my opinion, too small. 6 feet is tall enough, but not wide enough. I am hoping that your chameleon's "tank" at least is 3 feet tall (rather than wide), but it sounds more like it's a ten gallon fish tank.

I don't mean to bust your chops on this, but there's no other way than to tell it like it is. Your problem is likely to be solved very soon, one way or the other: get the chameleon a proper environment, or you'll be without a chameleon soon enough.

Please read this link (titled, "Before buying a chameleon"): http://www.veiled-chameleon.com/weblog/archives/000131.html

You may want to ask your question on an excellent mailing list which can be found through: http://lists.topica.com/lists/chameleon_journals/ . There are people there who know a whole lot more than I do (which probably isn't very much).

Good luck!

Posted by: Jeff at November 22, 2005 08:59 PM


Very sound advice and great links for Sarah, Jeff. Sarah's poor cham needs to be moved ASAP to a suitable screen enclosure. I also agree that if she can still gape, then warm water should be gently dripped directly into her mouth. Chameleons can go for days without food, but dehydration will kill a cham faster than anything else. I also use a product called Jump- Start when my female chams are gravid or when any of them go off-food. I also offer a variety of insect prey just as they would encounter in the wild..I sometimes wonder if they can just get bored with the same ole crix every day! LOL
As for fecal matter, urates should be white. Yellow urates are a sign of dehydration.

Jeff, please keep your readers posted as to your cham's progress and possible diagnosis. I applaud your committment to your pretty little cham and sincerely hope she continues to thrive. My Meller's suffered from edema some time ago, but it didn't look quite as swollen. Fortunately I was able to nip it quickly by cutting back on the supplements and cutting carrots out of my gut load recipe. All the best of luck...

Posted by: Laura at November 28, 2005 06:22 PM


I've yet to find anyone who has had an edema problem WITHOUT using supplements: except for me.

Posted by: Jeff at November 29, 2005 09:12 AM


My Female Cham is acting strange and i am worried
That she is dying. She has laid eggs twice before and has had no problems.. However she now is just as big and is not laying her eggs in the usual sand filled container we give her, she doesn`t even go near it (maybe avoiding it)and I often find her on the enclosure floor for the whole day not moving. She is not eating or drinking and is very slow if/when she moves. I spray her enclosure often and although she hates it I spray her too. We removed the sand for 2 days and no change in behavior so we put it back again. Any advice will be followed ... JIM

Posted by: jmaes at January 4, 2006 04:22 PM


@jmaes: My advice is to take her to the vet for x-rays. I lost a chameleon that way. She had metabolic bone disease. Making eggs is a very calcium demanding process.

Also: Maybe the sand is too cold?

Posted by: Jeff at January 4, 2006 04:30 PM


just to add... her colour is the same as ever and her sand is under the heat lamp and is sprayed regularly...I will take your advice and get her there A.S.A.P...

Posted by: jmaes at January 4, 2006 05:19 PM


Hello, I've been a Chameleon lover for years and I am now the proud owner of a 3 month old veiled female. I came across ur website in an information/caresheet web search and I must say, this is an awesome site! I've gained a lot of information in the past 1/2 hr of reading other pples commentaries and stories and I appreciate all that I've learned, however, one question was never addressed or answered about females. At what age do they start laying eggs? I do plan on getting a male (when I can afford one lol) to breed babies and hope by that time that I am well knowledged in Chameleon care and raising. I also have another question related strictly to this website, and that is I have not found a place where I can 'register' on the site if it exists but only a section (here) where I can post. Do you have such a registration capacity or does everyone just post in the general box? Thanks in advance, I'll check back regularly for any information that anyone here has to share as everyone's comments I've read thus far seem very good. Rosana.

Posted by: Rosana at February 7, 2006 11:07 PM


help! We got our veiled chameleon about a month ago and all of a sudden he stopped eating,drinking and is very weak. What should I do?He often grabs his own skin and sleeps all day?

Posted by: soso at March 6, 2006 04:34 PM


Hi i just bought a weiled chameleon about 3 days ago and its about 2 months old. I am worried about it because i have not seen it eat yet and it is begging to look very skinny. can you please tell me if his eating problem might be stress related or what?

Posted by: derek at March 6, 2006 09:08 PM


why doesnt my chameleon eat ? It is not pregnant and i got him about 3 weeks ago first he was eating and now he does not want to eat he looks pretty healthy and does not have any swellings or limb defection or any kind of disease can some body please help me. He has hasnt bee neting for about a week already someone help me please

Posted by: michael at April 25, 2006 07:41 PM


Hi i have a verracosus chameleon and he always seems to be sleeping. He seems weak and when i go to pick him up he will go onto my hands but won't even bother to open his eyes. After a few minutes of me holding him then he opens his eyes.. Can anyone tell me if thay have had this problem . thanks

Posted by: James at May 9, 2006 07:57 PM


i just got my chameleon from petsmart, there pets are all approved by a vet and there all in good con. but when i got mine it was there what 3 othere chamelons about 4"-inches big the pepole that work there said that the one i was going to buy was pragnet and when she was in there what the other 2 she was black and purpol what her mouth open i guess she was stressed out cuz she was pragnet so i purched her and when we took her out she turned nice and green..

i had her now for about 4 days and she never eats i tryed giving her all kinds of stuff she only drinks water, can it be that shes going to lay her eggs or what? Shes nice and strong and looks good she's very actove and has a good strong grip but the dam thing has not eatten for 4 days , i called pet smart and they told me that when they had here she would eat.... some one tell me what i can do or wye she is not eatting?

Posted by: Tiko at May 13, 2006 10:14 AM


i have a veiled baby girl chameleon and she
has been acting very wierd and stange like something is wrong with her my mom thinks she is
eggbond but i am not sure .this morning she isn't even wanting to move on the sticks inside her cage so we tried picking her up gently because she isn't so affraid ofus picking her up anymore and so we did and she didn't want to grab on we tried to call a vet but there ain't any reptile vets around so could you e-mail mer back and tell me what you think could be wrong with her?

-Taytum

Posted by: Taytum at June 16, 2006 11:13 AM


Hi, I'm new to the site. I am experienceing the same swelling around my veild chameleons neck. The problem is that I don't dust any of her crickets becuause I worried about this problem. She has repti sun 5.0 or something like that in her housing on most of the day to supply her with uvb and uva. I turn it off at night. I left it on for 4 days because I left out of town and I didnt have my timers set. Do you think this was the problem?

I am so worried about her!! Please help!!

We have no vet that knows anything about reptiles here so I wanted some advice before I make a 3 hour trip.

-Evi

Posted by: Evi at August 6, 2006 07:00 PM


I need help i jus got my chameleon he's about 3 and a half months old he was fine the first day but for the last 2 he wont eat! im very worried he doesn't look well .. whats wrong with him and how can i get him to eat?

Posted by: Ashlee at August 13, 2006 09:35 AM


ok pls can someone help me!? he's curled up in the corner opposite of wear he should be basking in the sun(uv lamp) .. could it be too warm or too cold .. or i dont know someone just please help or let me know where i can go to get help! please

Posted by: Ashlee at August 13, 2006 09:47 AM


I am the owner of a 7 month old veiled chameleon female. However, since purchasing her last week I noticed a red lump coming out from under her tail. Upon contacting the vet I was told she suffered from an inverted rectum. She is now at the vet awaiting surgery and has only been given a 50% chance of survival. Has anyone else had this problem? Any information would be great!

Posted by: Kamilah at August 15, 2006 08:18 PM


I think your stupid with a tank that big what where you thinking I hate people like you.FRIG!!!

Posted by: Joe franklin at September 28, 2006 05:47 PM


Edema can also be caused by a lack of protein or a failing kidney (or both). I have read of people feeding a lot of (twice a day) fruits that the chameleon loves but this diet lacks the protein the animals need. The problem with supplements is simply this, how much is enough and not to much? Too much vitamin supplementation can and does lead to toxicity. Edema has a few causes, you need to ensure that you cover all the bases and your enclosure meets all of the animals needs.

Posted by: Hart at November 15, 2006 04:40 PM


@Hart: More about that here (about half way down the page):

http://www.veiled-chameleon.com/weblog/archives/000258.html

I really probably should create a new dedicated edema page.

Posted by: Jeff at November 15, 2006 04:45 PM


hi my chameleons is very week and wants to eat but cant.i never see him drink.when he goes to eat he wont shoot out his tonuge.i took him to the vet and they said he needed a bigger tank and and a higher uv/now hes on something called tribrissen one time aday.can anyone tell me what i can do to save his life

Posted by: erika at May 20, 2007 07:47 PM


please help :\ i have a 7 month old veiled and for the last few days she hasnt eaten. instead shes been digging around on the floor. her eyes were sunken a few days ago so i began misting her more often throughout the day. she looks healthy and has normal color, but refuses to eat and spends most of the day on the ground. she doesnt seem to be full of eggs. and im all out of ideas. please help.

Posted by: willy at May 31, 2007 04:11 PM


I was recently at a petstore where i came across several baby veild chameleons, one imparticular very ill looking female caught my boyfriend and I's eye having pity for the girl since We already own several chameleons. The guy gave her to us for free figuring she might not make it and told us to give it our best shot. She has black marks slighty under her belly and back and she cannot open her eyhes accept for the right which she just barely opens. I've tried using a dropper and cleaning her eyes out and creating a humid environment hoping her eyhesight will come back so she can eat normally. Please let me know what you think I should do If theres anything left I can do for her short of a vet trip.

Posted by: Ashley M at June 16, 2007 12:35 AM


@Ashley: First, as I've pointed out before, I'm no expert, but I will say that I'm surprised that you think that creating a humid environment will help. Usually eye infections occur BECAUSE of humid environment conditions. The most common way that I've seen reported is that the hapless chameleon has been put into a tank or an aquarium by a well meaning but ignorant owner, then the chameleon at some point rubs its eye against the wet glass which dirties and wets the eye (creating a bacterial breeding ground), and the eye doesn't dry because of the humid environment. And that's the end of that eye and usually the chameleon.

If it were me, the first thing I'd do is create for it a dry environment.

Posted by: Jeff at June 16, 2007 10:55 AM


veiled chameleons seem to be the best bet for a starter chameleon,but how much handling and human interaction can they tolerate

Posted by: bob at July 11, 2007 09:24 AM


I just noticed a large lump behind my chameleon's neck. Im not sure what it is and am wondering if I need to rush him into the vet tomorrow. I have noticed that he has been hissing to himself frequently in the last two weeks. Im not sure what this means but I really hope he is ok. If anyone knows anything about what may be causing the bump and weird behavior please let me know. I appreciate any feedback you may have. Thanks

Posted by: Miguel at July 31, 2007 01:02 AM


i have a chameleon

Posted by: jake at August 9, 2007 09:45 PM


Hi i just recently purchased a 4 month old veiled chameleon. I've read before that females can eggs that are not fertilized. How can i tell if she were to be pregnant? She's been roaming around her cage for the past couple of days and i did find in the corner of her cage where she had tried to dig in the subtrate. Are these signs that she could possibly be pregnant? I've also read that if a female does not have a place to lay her eggs she could die. If anyone has any answers please let me know!

Posted by: J. Howard at August 12, 2007 06:37 PM


I have a 5 month old panther chameleon. Her stomach has gotten extremely large. But she shows no signs of laying any eggs yet (scratching at the bottom of the cage, loss of appetite, nothing). She has been closing her eyes during the day though, and falls asleep for the night at about 6:00 pm every evening, and is up at about 5 am. Her color is dark brown with pink spots, in the morning and throughout the day, and after I turn her light off at night, I check on her and she is light pink and orange all night until she wakes up (her normal colors when we bought her.) Will she show signs that she needs to lay her eggs, or do I just get her a sand box and see what happens? I am also wondering on how to keep her confined to the sand box so that she doesn't escape, I don't want to lose her in the house. This is my first chameleon and I have no idea what to expect from this. The lady at the reptile store where we bought her never even told me she would lay eggs. What do I do? Heather

Posted by: Heather at September 7, 2007 02:22 AM


We have a 4 month old veiled and this a.m. when I went to feed and mist him I noticed both eyes are swollen in the front potion of the eye. He is in the process of shedding and doing alot of rubbing on the vines and leaves but the eyes have me concerned any answers are appreciated thanks.

Posted by: Stacie at September 23, 2007 01:17 AM


I have a 6 month old male and female chameleon. Both are fed the same diet (very healthy diet), but I noticed in the past two weeks my male has been "laying" around at the bottom of his cage and when he climbs on vines, he moves extremely slow and somewhat drags his body (almost like his legs are weak). He still eats and drinks and his eyes are alert and he is active (slowly active), but I do not know what might be wrong with him. I do not think he is getting metabolic bone disease because he is fed vitamins and has all the proper lighting. Can anyone tell me what might be wrong? Thanks

Posted by: Dorothy at September 24, 2007 10:38 PM


I have a chameleon and i think his front leg is broken or dislocated...he can't stretch out or turn his front leg...and he is laying on the floor of his cage a lot which he never did when I first got him...what should i do if there is anything to do or who should i seek to find out "paco's" problem... thanx alot freddie

Posted by: Freddie at October 30, 2007 11:41 AM


HELF HELF HELF HELF HELF !! IS ANYONG OUT THERE PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!

Posted by: eee at November 7, 2007 07:11 PM


i think that these animals are really kool they are neat looking and i am doing a project on it

Posted by: richelle at December 20, 2007 10:48 AM


Hello. My 4 year old male veiled Chameleon is been acting sick for the last 2 days. He's not eating or drinking, hes lathargic, doesnt want to grip on to his sticks, lays on the bottom of his cage and his color is pale. Pretty much from what I have been reading that all signs point to dehydration but he always has water dripping and he/his cage is sprayed twice a day. He has all the proper bulbs and his cage temp is 87 degrees. We have tried giving him water but he won't take it. Its not looking very good and I would be upset if something happened to him. Is there anything else we can do??

Posted by: Gina at February 9, 2008 11:14 PM


Duude, i need help or advice! I have a 2 year-old, female, veiled chameleon by the name of, Genie. Her left eye is swollen and seems to have some liquid buliding up and she's always scratching it against something. I also noticed she isnt using her tounge to its full capacity when eating, she gets close and tries to chomp at them rather than lash her tounge out. I have never had this problem out of the 2 years.

Posted by: Harvey at February 13, 2008 09:06 AM


I have a tank thats 2 foot high is that tall enuff???

Posted by: phillp at February 29, 2008 10:30 PM


hi,everyone
i am a cham lover but i have not yet purchased one,bbecause i still want to learn about the right treating of such a precious beauty.
i am planning to get a veiled cham. sometimes soon. i am living in the east coast of saudi arabia.i have 25 years ago seen my first cameleon in our farm in the middle of the dessert. canyou believe it? how did it come there?
now we have a mountain house in syria as well and last week i found another veiled cameleon on our peach tree there as well.It was tiny still maybe one month old but looked very healthy.I left it to it's natural home.local told me that there are many alike. It is well known that the veiled cham is in the south of saudi and in yemen.
this proofes to be not true!it lives in the mountains of syria as well,no rain for weeks very dry summers and in winter is a lot of snow and it is terrible cold.how can the chams survive there? did anyone see veiled chams in nature somewhere else too?

Posted by: gerda endemann at June 19, 2008 11:54 AM


Hi, my boyfriend and i have a 3 year old veiled chameleon named aurora. about 8 months ago i had to rush her to the vet for a respitory infection, she also had what looked like edema. all has been well until recently. I feel like a bad mom or something because now she is always dark brown. the only time she is a pretty light green is when she is sleeping. she eats great like 5 or 6 gut-loaded crix per day. she gets misted three or four times per day, which she LOVES,but all the while she is soooo dark! i dont get it? one other thing im worried about is ALL along her spinal cord there looks like lumps on both sides. i dont know, maybe she is just an old lady who hates life and thats why she is always dark and shes decrepit now. or is it because of the wierd stuff growing along her spine that is making her dark all day long?

Posted by: bryce at September 19, 2008 11:49 PM


help.
i have a vieled male chameleon, who is just over a year old.
recently he has been biten by his crickets, and i took him to the vet and i was given iodine for it.
a day later his back legs like became totally paralyzed. and he cannot move them.
now, he will lean forward (like a wolf howling) tighten up his body, and claws and suddenly start shaking. he will then open his mouth and take in air.

im getting really worried because i think i might loose him.
i have been given antibiotics but i dont know how long left he has :(

advice please?

Posted by: vicki at September 21, 2008 10:39 AM


vicki, sounds like a respitory infection. u should go back to the vet and get something for him, or yes, he will die.

Posted by: bryce at September 21, 2008 07:00 PM


I have a chameleon, he is about 6 years old and has always been very healthly, yesterday i noticed his eyes were very sunken and he fell off the branches a few times, this morning i have found him not moving, eyes are closed no sign of breathing, i'm very upset about this but dont know why it has happened, he seemed as healthy as he has always been. I am trying to revive him with water and a gentle massage but i think i have lost him, its so sad i'm really going to miss Oon.

Posted by: Me at September 22, 2008 03:07 AM


I have manged to revive him he is moving, and openiing his mouth. I put him in the sun and he started to go green but couldnt stand up, i rushed him to the vet and she has fed him glucose and put him on a heat mat under a little blanket.

I hope he is ok.

Posted by: ME at September 22, 2008 03:17 AM


Unfotunately his condition hasnt improved and the vet has suggested he be put down. She belives it is down to his age as he is very healthy looking but is just very week, he is just lying down opening his mouth and doesn't look well.

I thought it must be best if he was in pain, i am very sad about it but have been told he has had quite a good life at 6 years, and had been well looked after, i feel bad but cant a see what else i could have done. : (

Posted by: ME at September 22, 2008 07:02 AM


Hello, I've had a 1.5 year old male veiled cham for about 5 months now and in the last 2weeks he has had problems . The symptoms are closed sunken eyes and hasn't ate anything for 4 days in a row . My local vet has put him on antibiotics , Tobramycin for his eyes a drop per day in each , and some Panmycin 12 mg twice daily . He hasn't been eating so he gets force fed 2 mealworms every three day and he gets .5 to .8mls of water everytime he gets his meds. His cage is a mesh 3ft square 6ft tall with misting system that runs once every 3 hrs for 45sec. 4ft reptile sun bulbs and 2 250watt heat bulbs between 85'&90' with 70 to 75 percent humidity. He also gets to go walk around the yard and play in the small trees I have in the yard.

Posted by: Tim at October 4, 2008 02:24 AM


my lizzard is very sick and my unkle and i have been force feeding her shes weak and her mouth hangs open if some one can help me plzz any advice

Posted by: connor at October 24, 2008 05:55 PM


I have a cham and now she wont drink or eat she has just laid eggs. I have 2 dripper in her cage. Does anyone no what i can do! X

Posted by: Siobhan at November 11, 2008 06:17 AM


hi please write email if you can answer this...my chameleons right eye is closed id say hlf to a quarter of the day...i was letting the crickets roam loose and someone warned me they could have done it...aside from that my temp humidity and enclosure are all completely kosher..please help! any ideas? thanks!

Posted by: joevassel@hotmail.com at December 11, 2008 04:34 AM


About 3 months ago my son purchased a pregnant cham from a pet store. We were told that she laid her last clutch on Sept. 17, 2008. She still has a tremendous appetite, loves to be held, and her color is a beautiful shade of green. She does come down from her favorite limb to walk around from time to time. Shouldn't she have already laid her eggs by now? I've heard that they can die eggbound and of course I don't want that to happen. We were told(by a breeder) to have a 5 gallon bucket with sand in it so we could put her in it everyday. She never digs in it but instead she falls asleep. Please tell me how to determine if she is at risk of becoming egg bound? HELP HELP HELP I'm concerned about my lil baby girl.

Posted by: Tammy at February 17, 2009 05:25 PM


Hi,

I purchased a 4-5 month old female veiled on Monday. She is lovely. For the first few days i saw her eat many crickets. Now, Friday, she has been sleeping for most of the day and night. Just sits at the top of her enclosure near the heat lamp... Her enclosure is always around 80f so I dont think she is cold but she just sleeps. I haven't seen her eat and never have seen her drink once. If I mist her in the face she tends to drink whats on her mouth but thats it. She seems really skinny. I can't tell if her eyes are sunken as I haven't been able to find any pictures of this online. Can you please give me some advice?!

Thank You!

Posted by: Ren at April 24, 2009 05:25 PM


I have had my veiled chameleon for about 4 months, and I would guess he is only a year (I don't even know whether or not of is a male or female and my vet didn't know either). He's only about 8 inches long, and he suddenly stopped eating, though he will drink once in a while, the enclosure is 2ft.x 18"x18". Humidity is always above 75%, temperature is always above 75 during the day, basking temperature is between 80-90 degrees F. I feed him calcium dusted crickets they are also gut loaded crickets. The water is supplyied by a waterfall with dechlorinated water. Also his right eye has been shut for 4 days straight, my vet says the eye problem is most likely irritation, but the eye opening has begun to scab over. Only that eye is sunken. I really hope it isn't anything too bad. Any/ ALL helpful hints or suggestions would be great! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Anne at April 28, 2009 04:27 PM


PLEASE HELP I live in an area where there seems to be no reptile vets that are available till monday...however my female 6 mos old veil is very very week wont eat or drink. I have been force feeding water she doesnt seem to happy about it..her toungue looks very swollen...her feces is dark...her body temp is very cold..i have made sure she is under her heat lamp...we provide her with a large beautiful screen cage just for her with hibiscus and meal worms and calcium crickets...she has labored breathing...what can i do to help till i get her to vet...AND YES I HAVE TRIED EVERY REPTILE VET WITH IN 60 MILES..please any info would help...i would provide pics if you would like..i visit your page everyday and find it more informative than any book or pet store has ever provided to me..thanks

Posted by: crystal hughes at August 22, 2009 01:22 PM


I have a male 3 month old veiled chameleon that hasn't been moving that much and when he does he moves extremely slow and walks like he is slouching and not standing up straight he look's normal and is drinking and only eating when i hand feed him cannot see a vet till later next week does anyone have any info that can help me Thanks

Posted by: David at September 3, 2009 09:10 PM


i have a young veiled he has a splot on his tail that stoped changing colors i think it might be a burn beacue he slept right under his light one night i moved his vine but im not shure if that was the reason plus there pety smart i dont think he would sit there and let himself burn thats why im askin if any has had this problem

Posted by: zach at October 2, 2009 12:31 PM


My veil doesnt want to eat or drink anything he is not showing any sings of swelling but acts like he can't use his tongue its been two days now and he seems to be getting weak.Please help no one seems to no what to do. And there are no exotic vets in my area.

Posted by: Brandy at November 14, 2009 11:15 AM


I've just been reading some of the comments on here and noticed a comment by Jeff on what a chameleon enclosure should look like, I'd just like to point out that a tank if large enough and kept clean enough with adequate ventilation such as a mesh top is perfectly fine to keep a veiled in, my male and female have large glass tanks with custom made lids for ventilation, the tanks are cleaned regularly with an eco soap, rinsed then sanitised with a specialist lizard and reptile tank spray, rinsed thouroughly again and then buffed, the humidity is regulated by a drip system above the greenery with a tray underneath and also the water dish. If you're an attentive owner and use things like thermometers, humidity gauges, exercise good hygiene and give enough space so your chameleon can get enough exercise there is no reason to choose an enclosure over a tank other than personal preference, yes the tank the girl described does sound very small and a bigger home wether a tank or enclosure is definitely needed, but to speak to somebody in such a way soley for their decision to use tank is ridiculous and makes you sound like you have a bad attitude. If you can give your chameleon a tank or enclosure the size of a small room then sure go for it, but just remember that they're chameleons not elephants, a veiled chameleon can thrive just as hardy in the type of tank I described happily and healthily; I agree with a great deal of your comments but this was someone asking for help and you pretty much shouted at them, I just hope that girl doesn't think that's the last time I ask someone for help on that matter and try and do things all by herself.

Posted by: Laura at February 1, 2010 08:51 AM


I was hoping to get some advice. I have a 1 1/2 yr old veiled female. She looks to have been trying to lay eggs for a couple of weeks. I supplied her with a container to lay them in but she just digs to the bottom of it and scratches at the plastic for about 10 min then goes back to her tree. I've noticed she looks sort of bloated now and hasn't been eating for about 2 days. I've read that it's normal for them to go off their food, but how long is too long to wait for her to lay her eggs? She doesn't seem to want to move. Just sits on her tree and won't open her eyes now. Just sleeps. Any advice??

Posted by: Meg at February 11, 2010 07:21 AM


@Laura. Well said, I have my hatchling Veiled Cham in a 300 gallon marine tank and he thrives on the space, glass or not. It is well vented and sanitized at regular intervals and i see no issue with this. Come on Jeff, go easy on your STERN replys

Posted by: DavidT at February 27, 2010 01:08 PM


I just got a 5 inch chameleon from a shady fairground and Im not sure if she's eating. I have the crickets with the powdered vitamins, any suggestions?

Posted by: jesse at March 31, 2010 11:49 AM


Hi,
I purchased a veiled chameleon around November. All of the sudden he doensn't want to eat the crickets also his eyes are sucked in, I'm hoping he's not dead because he is breathing but very slowly. What do I do? I am taking him to the vet, but what would you say in this situation. Thanks.

Posted by: Mirela at April 4, 2010 02:47 PM


Hey, I've seen your site several times already, great information. I have a chameleon guru in California to talk to for advice. I've had this small female veiled chameleon for over a month now. The first week in her new habitat she didn't eat and drank very little, but then the next two weeks she was eating two crickets a day. This week and part of last week, she hasn't been interested in her food at all but she drinks a lot of water. She's temporarily in a ten gallon tank, like the one she was in at the pet shop (granted they are ignorant to specific needs species have but she was healthy none the less, no mites, no mouth rot, her grip is strong). She gets natural light, but has a UV reptile light too. I have a screen encloser being made for her at the dimentions you recommended... but I don't know if she'll last long enough she hasn't eaten in nearly two weeks. Should I try some force feeding? The nearest vet is almost two hours away from where I live and I'm concerned the ride there might do her in. She's four months old according to the pet shop.

Posted by: CK at May 18, 2010 10:33 AM


Hi i have a male veiled chameleon and this morning i woke up and found him laying on the floor of his cage i put him back on the leaves and stuff hanging in the cage..then around 4:20 i look at him again and he is on the ground again.....im not sure if this is normal behavior or not i hope he is not dying

Posted by: Jackie at May 28, 2010 03:22 PM


Hi i have a male veiled chameleon and this morning i woke up and found him laying on the floor of his cage i put him back on the leaves and stuff hanging in the cage..then around 4:20 i look at him again and he is on the ground again.....im not sure if this is normal behavior or not i hope he is not dying

also he is very lazy it seems like i have never actually seen him eat by himself...my boyfriend or myself have had to actually put the worms in his mouth..is this normal? or what

please if anyone has answers email me at silent5voices@aol.com

Posted by: Jackie at June 24, 2010 02:17 PM


I've had my male veiled 2 plus years now, last night when I went in to turn his lights off, I noticed a small lump on the lower part of his eye, it seemed to be hard but is not bugging bugging him however, he's still eating lots of crickets and drinking water from his dripper. Its still worrying me very much, the only thought I have is that he may have been biten by a grasshopper my bf put in there, we live in the country so there's no fear of pesticide. Also there's no vet for reptiles for hours around. Please let me know about your thoughts on what it could be. Ill be checking some of my books today also. Thanks.

Posted by: Jessy at August 10, 2010 11:07 AM


hi, i got my veiled chameleon about 2 weeks ago. he is eating very normally but i dont see him drink very often. i mist him about 3 times a day and have a little waterfall in his cage. he is eating both crickets and mealworms but it a dark shade of brown all day. he turns bright green when he sleeps. is he too hot? i thought he was so i moved the heat lamp further away but he continues to stay brown. any ideas please? thanks

Posted by: Amber at August 17, 2010 12:02 PM


I have a young female veiled chameleon. For the past few weeks I have been having to force feed her. She still has good coloring, her limbs look fine, she has been drinking, she doen't look like she has lost weight, she acts normal. Her enclsure is a medium sized open air enlcousure with plenty of branches and limbs to climb on and plenty of silk foilage to hide in. She has the standared UVB bulb and a night bulb and her cage gets misted 4-5 times daily. However for a little over a month now she has been eating less and hanging out at the bottom of her cage. Thinking that she was gravid I made a nesting site for her in her cage but she has yet to lay any eggs it and is now hanging out at the top of her cage again, eventually got to the point where I had to force feed her every day by getting her aggravated enough at me to where she would open her mouth and I would shove the superworms in since cricket would just jump out. She always seems happy once food is in her mouth and voulentarly eats it but she will still make no attempt to feed herself. Yesterday I noticed she has a swelling the size of a marble in font of her casque in between her eyes on top of her snout. She vibrates when I touch it so i know it hurts her but she is still acting normal, looks normal, with normal bright green coloring. She has been ingesting calcium supplements twice to three time a week with vitamins once a week. So I am stumped. I called her vet which has yet to call me back and I been searching everywhere for info on this and so far have come up with nothing. The only other swellings I have read about were on joints not on noses! I have done everything by the book and now I'm at a complete loss. What is going on!?

Posted by: Hillary at September 22, 2010 04:08 PM


Please help, little chameleon Elle has a swollen throat and has gone of her food completly. She laid eggs about two months ago and was back to normal but a week ago she started go all strange. Please help i dont want to lose her

Posted by: Terri at February 12, 2011 01:47 AM


I just got a veiled chameleon about a month ago from petco and he looked healthy. Then he started goin downhill two day's ago and i walked in my room this morning and he was dead in the bottem of his cage he dident fall from a vine or anything because my mom and me layed him on the bottom of his cage on top of a blanket with his heat lamp next to him. It stayed about 85 degrease there. His setup, was a 18x18x36tall then I had alot of fake vines and alot of leaves and hiding places I got a little dripper and a water fall and he ate really good and the last few days he just wouldent eat or drink and I just walked in and found him dead at 7:10 a.m and i'm really upset

Posted by: Brandon at February 12, 2011 06:06 AM


I have got a veiled Chameleon about two months ago. The pet store didnt know how old she was but she now is about 3 inches minus the tail. She is eating fine and doesnt appear dehydrated but her stomache seems to be a little swollen. Her color is always a light green and she is active. Is this something to worry about or is it normal? About what age do they lay eggs? Any help would be appreciated. thanks, Amber.

Posted by: Amber at September 25, 2011 10:31 AM


My chameleon has one eye that seems to be bothering him. He keeps it closed alot and it looks dry and when he does open it he doesnt fully open it, he only opens it about halfway. What should i do?

Posted by: Ld at November 5, 2011 12:43 PM


Hello i have a mail veiled chameleon named hunter the store i went t0 couldnt tell me how old he was so i was wondering if you could tell me a way to find out how old he is. second after i got him i took him to A different pet store so they could see if he was healthy and they said he was good but he was too skinny and we needed to buff him up a bit. so i have been trying to do this but he wont eat when im in the room with him so i leave the room for a wile and i come back and there still isnt anything eaten. its kinda cold in my house so we have a heater in the room so it stays at a good temperature and he has a screen cage its all screen no glass at all we have everything he needs his cage gets sprayed he has a waterfall basking arie but we just dont know what to do so i need some advice pronto! Please and thank you!

Posted by: Emily at December 30, 2011 09:26 AM


i have an adult veiled chameleon his anus is like pushed out its starting to get red the vet said 140 bux just to look at it anyone ever heard of this?

Posted by: tony at February 19, 2012 05:39 PM


Hi! What animals eat chameleons? Coz i have mine where there are cats and dogs around, will they try and eat my chams?
plz help!

Posted by: chameleon at March 15, 2012 01:49 AM


my jackson has been stoned like 4 days not moving much may have fallen today as he is on the cage floor on his side. He's now got a teal blue stomach area and almost dead like pleeeeassse help!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: tami at March 28, 2012 06:13 PM


i have a 3 month baby veiled chameleon. today while holding him i let him roam around on my pillow. he ended up eating a piece of fuzz that was on my pillow. it was a tiny fuzz but i am very worried that he wont be able to pass it, or it could be toxic. I dont know what to do. any way to help him? please resond. I really love this little guy and my heart will break if i have to burry him so soon!

Posted by: katierae at April 11, 2012 01:07 AM


Hi, i have a male 6month old Yemens/veiled chameleon, i've had him for just under 2 months now and he's been fine, he has a decent sized enclosure 30 degree heat everyday.
but up until a few days ago, i started feeding him bigger locusts (4th shed) and morio worms, to which he ate about 10 in a few days, i came home last night and found one of the droppings that he had done didn't look at all like the small hazelnut coloured ones, it was about as big as his head and had all of the larger locusts and large meal worms that i had been feeding him in, but they were undigested barely touched just all squished together
i'm just looking for an answer because he seems fine now but that must of hurt him i don;t want anything internally to be damaged, and i'm wondering why he didn't digest it could it be parasitic worm? he's had healthy stools since. i can send a picture of the stool which i was worried about if you would like.
thank you

Posted by: alexander at July 30, 2012 08:05 AM


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