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December 21, 2005

Gular Edema Cured

I'm happy to report that the gular edema which affected my chameleon has entirely disappeared. Apologies for the weird photo, below, but she's very camera shy, and this photo from a few days ago when she was shedding is about the best I could come up with to display her neck. Notice that the huge swelling which used to be there before is no longer present:

The chameleon's edema has completely disappeared.

You might also notice that her body and legs look quite a bit different, too. It seems to me that she was actually retaining water all over, not just in the neck.

Before describing what changes I made which (probably) resulted in the elimination of the edema, let me recap her diet prior which led up to the edema (and was likely it's cause):

My chameleon ate almost exclusively crickets. The crickets were gut loaded with a sort of applesauce-ish type of mixture made of near equal parts of: 1) dandelion greens, 2) collard greens, 3) endive, and 4) watercress. That's the main dish. The dandelion greens actually probably represented closer to 30% of the mix, rather than 25%. They're also given two side dishes: 1) bee pollen, and 2) dried egg yolks. For hydration, they received calcium fortified cricket quencher. Two or three times per month, the crickets would be dusted with vitamin powder and calcium powder before being introduced to the chameleon.

For hydration, my chameleon's enclosure is partially showered, 3 times per day, 1 minute per shower, with an automatic showering system. Total, it probably dumps about a quart of water into the enclosure every day, wetting the leaves, most of which drips into the substrate.

The most commonly reported cause which I found on the Internet for gular edema was excessive vitamin A. In all cases that I found where the source was referenced, preformed vitamin A in vitamin powders was referenced as the culprit. I saw no reports of beta carotene being reported as a problem (but I have read advice not to hydrate feeder insects with carrots, though edema was never referenced as a reason to not).

The gut load which I was using for my crickets turned out to be unusually high in vitamin A (I presume beta carotene, but I don't know), due primarily to the presence of the dandelion greens which accounted for at least 58% of the vitamin A in the mix (based upon 25% of the mix coming from dandelion greens). By way of comparison, my gut load contained about 21.4% as much vitamin A as an equivalent amount of pure carrots.

The veterinarian was skeptical that the gut load could be the problem. In her opinion and/or experience, edema caused by hypervitaminosis had always come from supplements, not natural food sources, and further, she was of the opinion that even if the chameleon had been eating the gut load directly, rather than through the crickets, it'd be so healthy of a diet as to not likely cause any problems. In short, she couldn't explain the edema, and said that surgery was the next logical step to finding the problem (a step she neither indicated was preferable to the edema itself, nor the reverse). She pointed out that edema can be caused by many things and that we had no strong evidence to point to any particular cause.

I'd also found reports on the Internet about edema being caused by organ failure due to chronic dehydration. That was a scary prospect, as I seem to remember one report saying that the organ failure would probably be permanent. Nevertheless, I took dehydration to heart as a possible cause for the edema.

The changes I made were these:

1) I introduced superworms to the chameleon's diet. The superworms are kept in a bedding of high calcium and high nutrition worm bedding. The chameleon received about 3-5 superworms per week. The superworms are offered potato slices for hydration.

2) While I continued to provide my previously mentioned gut load to my crickets, I also gave the aforementioned worm food to the crickets as well. They seem to love it (in fact, it's sold as cricket food too, although when sold as cricket food it's ground a bit more finely than it is when sold as worm bedding).

3) I switched from feeding the chameleon few adult crickets to feeding about twice as many smaller crickets (this had nothing to do with trying to solve the problem, but I think the change should be mentioned).

4) I began giving the crickets water and potatoes for hydration, in addition to my original gut load (which is wet) and the aforementioned cricket quencher.

5) I bought a small tree and began giving my chameleon warm showers in the bath tub for 45 minutes to an hour per session, roughly 3 sessions per week, by putting the tree into the shower and the chameleon in the tree. The temperature of the water is just a bit more than lukewarm, certainly not anything like hot, and the chameleon loves it. Well, she does until it begins to run cold, then she heads for parts of the tree which are not being showered.

That's all of the changes that I can think of, and I don't know what, if any of them contributed to the end of the edema. For all I know, it may have just been an illness, like you or I catching a cold, which she eventually got over. Or it may have stemmed from an injury, since healed. But, for someone else who is experiencing problems with neck swelling, i.e., gular edema, this information may be helpful. So good luck!

Posted by Jeff at December 21, 2005 02:39 PM

Comments

Hi Jeff, That's great news about your chameleon recovering from the neck swelling. Excellent chronicle of all the things that you are doing. Too bad you don't offer a retreat of any kind for us other chameleon owners, like a Chameleon Ranch (spa getaway package). Sounds like you have the ideal environment and are totally informed about their care. I'm glad she's doing well again.

Posted by: Linda at December 22, 2005 04:48 PM


Hi Linda!

Thanks for the kind words. However, the truth is that I don't have a clue. I just post stuff here in the desperate hope that someone who does have a clue will come along and tell me what I'm doing wrong!

Posted by: Jeff at December 27, 2005 12:03 AM


I JUST PURCHASED MY FIRST REPTILE, A BEAUTIFUL VEILED CHAMELEON. HIS NAME IS CHARLIE. I CLEANED HIS ENCLOSURE TODAY AND NOW HE IS OPENING HIS MOUTH WIDE---NOT TO EAT, BUT HE HASN'T BEEN DOING THIS. WHAT IS WRONG OR AM I JUST OVER DOING IT?

Posted by: KRISTI STEWART at January 3, 2006 02:32 PM


Hi Kristi!

Gaping is one of the most commonly questioned behaviors of a chameleon. It's normal at least insofar as it seems to happen to just about everyone. Whether it is a sign of a problem, I don't know. If it is, I don't know what that problem is. Usually most people say to check the temperature conditions in the enclosure to find if its too hot. Maybe that's it. I don't think so, though, because where veiled chameleons come from is a very, very hot place. It's unlikely to be hotter than their natural habitat in a well tended habitat.

Posted by: Jeff at January 3, 2006 05:16 PM


Hi, I have a 4 yr old chameleon (Gumby). He is my only lizard. Lately I notice at the rear of his mouth (which normally shows a slight bulge) that one side is about twice as large as the other. He seems fine, eats lots of crickets,enjoys his daily water spraying,and sheds regular. Any advice would be helpful as I have no other chameleon to compare him to. I can e-mail pictues if needed. Thanks , Thom

Posted by: Thom at January 5, 2006 09:04 AM


@Thom: Your description reminds me of this link: http://www.mythicalchameleons.com/ivanjax.htm

Posted by: Jeff at January 5, 2006 01:06 PM


I have a two year old veiled chameleon named Pudge. Recently, she started having trouble eating and got really dehydrated. She then began laying in the bottom of her cage. I moved her to a small enclosure and offer her water 2 to 3 times a day. She has not eaten for about 14 days, and will drink every other day or so. She is pretty skinny now, but finally had a large bowel movement. Do they get stopped up? Is this a sign she is getting better. Let me know.
Kris

Posted by: Kris Waters at January 12, 2006 07:39 PM


Hi Kris,

I don't really have an answer to your question. Vet visits cost a lot, but they're probably the best advice you can get.

One veterinarian, when my first chameleon (which I made a lot of mistakes with) was very sick, had me feeding her cat food using a syringe. It was cat food from the vet, not just any old cat food (I'm not sure if that makes a difference or not), but that's one solution to the no eating problem.

But I'll admit that the first thing that I thought of when I read your post was dehydration. You might want to consider whether she is getting enough water (that's not whether or not water is *available* to her, but instead whether or not she's actually consuming enough). I suggest that you read all of the comments on this link, starting at the bottom and reading from there up: http://www.veiled-chameleon.com/weblog/archives/000153.html

Posted by: Jeff at January 12, 2006 10:37 PM


Jeff,
Thanks for your response. I did get Rx food called A/D...fed her with a syringe. She is quite layed out, but still alert and trys to move away when the dogs come by. We have an appt with a herp vet tomorrow. I am praying she hangs in their. I am keeping her in a small enclosure at 88-90 degrees and have seen her drink. The last big drink caused a big BM. Have learned alot over the past few days, thanks to the internet. Hats off to all of those people out there that would take the time to listen and offer advise. I have recommended your site to a friend, and a proud new cham owner.

Thanks again,

Kris

Posted by: Kris at January 13, 2006 06:04 PM


i got a big new cage for my veiled cham and he loves it but now he's beginning to be very nasty i cant even pick him up anymore with out him trying to bite me. he wasnt like that at all before this new cage. but once i get him out he's fine like nothings wrong. what can i do so hes not so aggresive getting him out?

Posted by: lily at January 18, 2006 02:54 PM


Hello Jeff,
I just wanted to post about my female veiled named Stella.
I adopted Stella becuase she is a handicapper. As a small one she was injured......either by exposed heat light or another chameleon over a cricket. She is tongueless. Actually she only has a stub of a tongue about 1/4" long.
So not long, no more than 1 week after her injury I adopted her. She has to be handfed.........for the rest of her life. In the beginning you had to pull her beard to open her mouth, but now she is much like a baby bird and opens willingly at meal time.
Last weekend she seemed to not eat as much as usual. She is eating 1/2 to 3/4" crickets approx. 4-6 2 times a day.
Right here I have a question: how many approx should she be eating? once or twice a day? In all that I have read it just tells you how to feed crickets and that the chameleons eat them but no information on how many?
Ok other than that she was about as long as my finger not counting her tail when I got her in August 05. I don't have any idea how old in months she is at that size.
Now she is as long as my palm not counting tail.
So back to last weekend. She wasn't eating normally and her belly looked swollen. I thought that she might be 'stopped' up. So I located an exotic vet and took her in for a look see. First off the vet thought she might be full of eggs. We took xrays and Yep there are tons of eggs in there, just yolks not calcified yet. So now I had a choice. Give suppliements etc. and set her up to lay them...........or surgery to remove them along with her ovaries.
Well do to the fact she was already misserable, uncomfortable and that the eggs were not even calcified yet..........I chose to operate.
All went very well, she was operated on yesterday morning and I brought her home last night. She is recovery very fast, happy to be home and in her own enclosure. Her appetite is slow to come back sofar. She only had 2 crickets this morning but she is climbing about some.
The hardest part of this whole procedure is that I have to give her an antibiotic shot once a day for 5 more days.........
Do you know how hard it is to do that? I mean penetrate the tough skin and it hurts me to hurt her!
So I just thought that I would share my experience and ask a few questions on my mind.
Thanks for all your help.
Lorrie

Posted by: lorrie at January 21, 2006 10:27 AM


Lorrie,

Are you sure you have to inject the antibiotics? Baytril can also be given orally. I have been treating my veiled for about 7 days orally and have had no problems. As for injecting, I would assume it would be Sub-q...an insulin syringe has a very fine needle and probably would only cause a little discomfort. I would check on the oral route or, get specific instuctions from the vet to inject it.

Kris

Posted by: Kris Waters at January 23, 2006 09:31 PM


Hello I live in England and have a two year old Veiled Chameleon I have a mesh viv in a small consevatory and he has the free run of it . I think this could have been the cause of his present state of health because he has most of his time away from a uv source and it looks like he has the early stages of MBD . He has swollen ankle joints and one rear foot .Since noticing this a month condition a month ago I have enclosed him in his cage 2ftx2ftx3ft with a new repti glo 5.0 2ft tube with reflector and a couple of 60w spots resting on the top of the viv where he can get to within 6-8 inches .I had been feeding young locusts and waxworms now I am feeding silent brown crickets gut loaded with fresh carrot,water cress and a calcium fortified bran.I am lightly dusting with Nutrobal and calcium carbonate. Do you have any advice to help recovery . What kind of recovery can I expect.Presently he is eating well has a strong grip and good use of his tongue !Kind Regards Peter.

Posted by: Peter Johnson at March 3, 2006 02:33 PM


please help my chameleon won't eat on her own and will not hunt she is about 7 months ish and has layed eggs once. she will only eat by hand but used to eat on her own from a tall container close to the bottom of her terrarium. Since about 2 months ago just as she was about to lay eggs she stopped eating adn we tried feeding her by hand to get her to eat after she had layed them which she did but still will only eat by hand what can we do???? Any one have some ideas please help us we don't want her to starve and we cant keep feeding her by hand all the time

Posted by: Chrystal at March 31, 2006 07:08 PM


my son's veiled is having some problems its back legs arn't working right he seems a little sick his breathing seems labored and his rear legs keep grabing on to his front locking him into what i can only describ as the featle position and he wont let go. Is there any possible way you can help me?

Posted by: john at April 24, 2006 04:50 PM


hi, i just purchased my first Veiled Cham, i realy would love some help with 'gut-feeding' recipes. she is only 2-3 months old.
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Posted by: mike at May 6, 2006 12:54 PM


I have a 4-1/2 who is a very special needs pets. He has trouble walking and would grasp his front legs with the back from the day I got him. I have been hand feeding him for months now. Anyway, I know he is getting to his time but 3 days ago his back legs were completely swollen. One has gone down but the other is huge. Any suggestions or HELP

Posted by: Karen Schere at June 13, 2006 10:35 AM


@Karen: I believe there are no good suggestions for that other than to take the chameleon to a qualified vet and be prepared to take whatever measures are necessary to find the problem and fix it.

Do it yourself veterinarianism isn't a good idea. It never is. The fundamental question is: How much do you value the welfare of the animal?

Chameleons are an advanced pet, as opposed to a pet for novices, and they require more, not fewer, trips to the veterinarian than a novice pet such as, say, a cat or a dog. Yet many people routinely take those pets to the veterinarian for yearly check-ups, even when the animal has no apparent problem. Chances are that those pets, when acquired, didn't even cost 1/2 as much (if they cost anything at all) as people pay for chameleons. Yet, still, even when a chameleon has a very significant problem, people are more inclined to search the Internet and look for "home remedies" than to simply put the chameleon into a critter keeper and visit a veterinarian.

My message to so many people on this list is: I just don't understand.

Posted by: Jeff at June 13, 2006 10:55 AM


I have a beautiful female cham. and i am almost positive she has this edema problem. Her neck and throat are very swollen and she has had 2 episodes as if she is choking to death during feeding time. If possible could you PLEASE email me a little help sheet on what you think i should do. I beleive it is my fault she has gotten sick (i dust the crickets at every feeding) something i thought was normal. I really need advice on what to gutload my crickets with. Right now i am feeding them the cricket quencher and dusting them. PLEASE HELP!!

Posted by: Katie at July 12, 2006 10:20 AM


@Katie: I think you should take her to the veterinarian: http://www.veiled-chameleon.com/weblog/archives/000260.html

Nevertheless, even if she wasn't having a problem, it'd still be a good idea to stop dusting the crickets. Once or twice a month probably wouldn't hurt, but it sounds like you're doing it every feeding. Adequate nutrition should come from its food, not from supplements. Feeding a chameleon dusted, but otherwise poor nutrition crickets (poorly gut loaded) is like feeding a child Twinkies for every meal with a multi-vitamin.

Here is what finally cured the edema forever with my chameleon - this came from its veterinarian: Go to buy some A/D Dog/Cat food from a veterinarian, get a syringe (no needle), mix about 2_cc of A/D with 1_cc of water, suck it up into the syringe, and use the syringe to squirt about 1_cc of the mixture into your chameleon's mouth per day. After about 10 days, you'll start to notice a change in the edema; after about 20 days, it'll be gone.

Then read this page: http://www.veiled-chameleon.com/weblog/archives/000258.html

By the way, edema happens all over a chameleon's body. The throat swells up the most because that's where the skin is the most loose. Your chameleon will probably lose 20% of its size, or more.

Posted by: Jeff at July 12, 2006 03:46 PM


I have had my femal veiled chameleon for over a year. We have tryed to bread her more then once, with no success. Now she has swelling in her feet and knees, also little bulges on her tale and some on her back. What should i do about this?

Posted by: Beth at September 7, 2006 12:04 PM


where do chameleon come from?

Posted by: Latifah at October 8, 2006 12:13 PM


Merlin, my young veiled chameleon is unfortunately laid out at the bottom of his cage.
I have failed to give him the proper vitamins and realized this (hopefully not too late) He has been under my care of a dropper of water mixed with rep-cal (should I consider other vitamins?) if so, please let me know...He has been like this for at least two weeks and tonight I noticed what looks like small scabs around his mouth. I think he is fading. Its getting harder and harder to get worms lino his mouth.
Any advise would help.
Truly, Mike

Posted by: Mike at December 5, 2006 08:35 PM


my chameleon has stoped drinkin what do i do?

Posted by: emz at December 18, 2006 06:03 PM


I have a important question. I have a six month old female panther chameleon and she is quite beautiful and recently she is on this weird diet where all she wants to eat are worms. Preferably silk or butterworms.. She doesn't want anything to do with crickets anymore. She is drinking normal and everything is normal but she won't eat any crickets. Do you have any insite because worms start costing alot to feed her??

Posted by: Shane at December 23, 2006 09:22 AM


hows it going I just wanna say that Kristi you sound like an incredible care giver for chameleons and im currently as of now experiencing a problem right now basically the same type of problems others are having in this form chameleon is all hunched in and weak and cant move or hold his head up its sad but i just want to let everyone know Ive managed to raise his health within the hour by keeping him moistened with misting him and heated with his lamp and with the fan blowing on him lightly and he is doing soo much better and hes going to hit the vets in the morning I'm previously pulling an all nighter just to insure he makes it the night so wish me luck and all the best to everyone

Posted by: David at January 17, 2007 03:44 AM


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Posted by: internet pharmacy at February 3, 2007 04:43 AM


Im just wondering if you would know whats wrong with my chameleon. Theres a film substance over one of her eyes and she can barley open it? If you dont know then im sure i will have to take her to the vet. Im wondering if she just got poked in the eye by a leaf or something? Any clu?

Posted by: sarah at March 20, 2007 12:12 PM


Perhaps you've been keeping her in a tank and that's led to an eye infection?

Posted by: Jeff at March 20, 2007 03:19 PM


Her house is half tank and some screen its back wall bottom and both sides are tank. Half of the front and the top are screen. So do you think this needs a vet or will bringing her out more and maybe a pet store has drops for this kinda thing? I have to get her a new cage. but how would that give her a eye infection>?

Posted by: sarah at March 20, 2007 09:39 PM


I have a 2 year old veiled chameleon. She has neer had problems and just recently (in the last day) she has developed white crystals coming out of her nasal passages. What are they, is she sick, can she breath? As well as her eyes seem a little sunken in which I know usually is signs of dehydration but in my two years I have never had a problem with dehydration of her with the watering methods I have been using. Please help she is my beautiful baby! :)

Posted by: Kurt Dzaman at March 23, 2007 12:24 PM


@Kurt: Both are signs of dehydration. One is indicative enough, two is severe it seems to me.

http://www.veiled-chameleon.com/weblog/archives/000232.html

Posted by: Jeff at March 23, 2007 02:22 PM


Hi everyone. My 6 month old veiled started shedding a week ago. For 2 days now, her eye has been closed. Does anone have a suggestion?

Posted by: Denise at April 3, 2007 12:26 PM


were do chameleons live and wat do they eat?

Posted by: diana at April 11, 2007 02:00 PM


Hi,although i dont have a veiled chameleon, I have a panther and he has developed white crust or crysrals around both of his nostrils. Is this bad if it is can anyone tell me what to do to treat it.

Posted by: john at April 22, 2007 09:08 AM


Hi John, my veiled chameleon has recently developed the same symptoms. She has white crust/crystalline stuff collecting on her left nostril. Please post any information you receive concerning this and I'll keep up the search! Thanks.

Posted by: Tim at May 4, 2007 11:30 PM


hello my name is red, proud chameleon owner. i was curious to the cause of joint swelling, and whether or not the rear legs differed from the front. whats the cure for this illness and can it ever lead to death? Peace

Posted by: RED at May 19, 2007 03:17 PM


i am getting one myself tomoro morning and i could use some tips and information
1. can they actually chagne colors?
2. what is the best care to give them
3. is there any treats they like
4. any foods they cannot have?

Posted by: Collin =) at May 26, 2007 08:32 PM


hi!
i just got my first chameleon today
a 5 month old veiled female named jennay
she seems healthy and happy at her new home
at first she was a bit scared by the transfer and turned grey with long yellow streaks and began hissing at me( normally bright green with 4 small yellow dots.) luckily she warmed to the place.
im a bit worried that she hasnt eaten anything since i brought her home
i dont know if im just being paranoid or not.
but right now that im looking at her she seems like shes on the hunt haha. but plz if u have any ideas to my add please tell me

Posted by: Collin =) at May 27, 2007 02:56 PM


I have a chameleon who for the past 2years has eaten live, 6 week old crickets and occasionally we have given him mealworms. Now he will not eat crickets anymore and will go indefinetly without eating them. The minute I give him a meal worm he will snatch it up. I've been told that I shouldn't feed him mealworms all the time. What other substitues can I give him for crickets or how can I get him to eat live crickets again?

Posted by: robert Oxenham at June 11, 2007 11:37 AM


I have a 2 yr old male veiled which has been having problems opening it's mouth to eat. It won't shoot it's tongue it only tries to grab it's food with it's mouth. I plan on taking it to the herp vet in the next couple of days but was wondering if there is anything that you could tell me so i can have a better idea of what is going on with him. He also has a large bump growing on his head and i was told by a local pet store that it could be a cyst and i could have it drained by a vet. Do you think this is something that i should look into getting done for him as well or is he to fragile to go through such surgery?

Posted by: Andrea at July 15, 2007 02:51 PM


Hi i have a question concerning the medicine baytril. I have 6, 1 week old baby chameleons that my vet said needed to take Baytril. He however wasnt familiar enough with chameleons to know how i should give it to them. The directions on the bottle tell me to mix the contents with 1 gallon water. After i mix it should i just pour some into their misting bottle and mist the cage with it? Please help it would be greatly appreciated!

Posted by: Courtney at July 20, 2007 07:54 PM


Hey,
My Jackson has developed a strange growth to one side on the top of his head. It dosn't seem to bother him but I don't like the way it looks. It seems to be some kind of fluid build up I think. Has anybody had this or a similar problem, and if so what can you tell me about cureing it. Thanks for your help.

Posted by: mike at July 25, 2007 02:02 PM


do any of these questions eve get answered /?

Posted by: celia hopcroft at August 16, 2007 02:29 PM


I was wondering if you could help me. My chameleon used to use his toungue to eat, but recently (within the last couple of weeks) I've had to hand feed him because he can't seem to use his toungue anymore. I'm not sure what's wrong with him. I can't afford to take him to the vet, so any advice?

Posted by: Francesca at October 16, 2007 03:42 AM


ummmmm,I'm gonna get a veiled chameleon but I'm worried that I will not make a good owner.I am very responsible,but everyone is talking about taking them to the vet.Well,we can't afford that!Please help me !If my soon-to-be baby gets sick,Idon't know what I'll do!

Posted by: peanut at October 23, 2007 03:01 PM


I have a veiled chameleon, I found her on the bottom of her cage today, her back legs and tail are limp? what is wrong with her.
thanks madison

Posted by: madison at October 29, 2007 06:51 PM


Hey! I have a 6 month old veiled chameleon and I have recently become very concerned about her. In the past week or so I have noticed that she is retaining orangey spots and darker colors all the time even when in the cage. Then the past few days she has been laying on the bottom of the cage and not moving very minimally. I also noticed this morning that she hasn't eaten anything. I am just really concerned and I am not sure what her behavior means. Could you shed any light on this situation for me?!

Posted by: Janine at November 8, 2007 09:35 AM


my chmelon wont eat anything and his color is very dark

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Posted by: avemaTautnevy at January 2, 2008 09:47 AM


My veiled has a broken tail. what do I do? She is a small thing, about two inches long. But the tail is broken about 1/2 inch from the tip up, and it is all brown. and it doesn't move when she tries to grasp a tree or branch... Please help..

thanks, Zach

Posted by: Zach at January 4, 2008 04:23 PM


I've joined the club:) after over a year of procrastination, i have bought a chameleon buy he does not seem t have an appetite which is why i have ended up here... thanks for sharing, those who came before me.

Posted by: Spyr at January 30, 2008 03:24 PM


hi, my little sister's veiled chameleon fell down and the back half of her body turned black. she hasnt moved all day long, but we've kept it warm the whole time. i dont know if she'll make it through the night, and i cant fine any info on how to take care of it. we're very conserned.
can anyone can please help us!

Posted by: martha at March 1, 2008 11:41 PM


My chameleons eye is bilgung and i don't know what to do. Please help me!

Posted by: Josh at March 9, 2008 06:57 AM


Bulging not bilgung sorry

Posted by: Josh at March 9, 2008 06:58 AM


My 2 year old male veiled is molting and today it looks like his horn has split open - does anyone have experience with this? I live in Arizona and he generally lives outdoors around my fountain. I don't think it could be trauma, but perhaps.....

Posted by: Ginny at March 9, 2008 06:39 PM


I was just wondering what the easiest way to open a chameleon's mouth is? I"m trying to feed my chameleon with a syringe and I don't know how to open his mouth?? any ideas??

Posted by: caren at April 10, 2008 10:07 PM


my aproxamatly 2 year old male veiled camelion which i just aquired from someone who didnt have the time to care for him has one front leg that he just lets hang from the branch when resting , basking, or sleeping he can still use it and i have seen him eat verry little since i got him i did put him into a larger environment and he didnt move for a few days then he seemed fine strong and comftorable but now the leg just hangs there i didnt see him fall but ? it dosent look swollen and is still bent at the elbow part he just lets the bottom part of the leg hang down he is babying it and only uses when needed will he heal on his own his color seems fine i hate to go to vet they always kill my animals please some input

Posted by: sue at April 21, 2008 07:41 AM


One afternoon, I was in the backyard hanging the laundry when an old, tired-looking dog wandered into the yard. I could tell from his collar and well-fed belly that he had a home. But when I walked into the house, he followed me, sauntered down the hall and fell asleep in a corner. An hour later, he went to the door, and I let him out. The next day he was back. He resumed his position in the hallway and slept for an hour.
This continued for several weeks. Curious, I pinned a note to his collar: "Every afternoon your dog comes to my house for a nap. "
The next day he arrived with a different note pinned to his collar: "He lives in a home with ten children - he's trying to catch up on his sleep."

I cried from laughter
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Posted by: Melissik at May 2, 2008 12:27 PM


Hey! I have a 6 month old veiled chameleon and I have recently become very concerned about her. In the past week or so I have noticed that she is retaining orangey spots and darker colors all the time even when in the cage.

Posted by: kawaƂy at May 4, 2008 08:52 AM


My chameleon kush is injuried I'm sure but dont know how or what to do he barely can move now he walks all wobbely all legs seem to function he only stays at the bottom of his cage now. Like his back legs work but its like he still has to drag his body around with his front legs I have no idea what happened cuz I live with so many ppl and no one will confess any suggestions other then the vet

Posted by: Sam at May 29, 2008 04:06 PM


I have a 1 year old Panther chameleon. Fred (thats his name) has decided that crickets are too good for him and only enjoys silk worms and super worms for a tasty snack. Are there any recommedations to get him to eat the crickets again, because we have to get the silk worms shipped from out of state and it is quite pricy.

Posted by: Desiree at August 1, 2008 06:36 PM


I have 16month old Male Yemen (Veiled) Chameleon. Yesterday i noticed after giving him a shower with his favourite plant, his back legs are quite limp. The right is worse than the left, he tries not to put weight on it at all.
He basks on a branch under his lamp with the right leg dangling. He is normally a very active chameleon, he wanders my house and basks in the sun as a have plants in most windows. Now he looks very sad just laying there, i haven't seen him pass a stool in a few days either. Maybe thats a problem too?

Posted by: Alex at August 4, 2008 05:10 AM


i have a 18month old veiled chameled with a lump on his side, does,nt seem to bother him,apparently the lump is called a fat lump not a cyst caused by feedin him worms instead of crickets.Worms are the chameleons favourite treats if fed to many they will turn ther nose at other feed.Chameleons are high maintenance so stick to ther normal diets worms only a treat.

Posted by: iggy at September 16, 2008 08:31 AM


hi, i have a 6 month old panther chameleon, i have noticed that mainly when he is basking he closes one eye, not for long(about 30 secs or so),
the times that i see him close his eye it is usually the eye that is facing the light, i thought that he might just be sheltering his eye from the light!
and also sometimes when blinking his eyes sink in briefly like he is cleaning his eyes. Is any of this normal? or can someone shed a bit of light on it please.
Thanks.

Posted by: henry at September 29, 2008 03:39 PM


is it bad to hand feed ur chameleon

Posted by: jose at December 24, 2008 08:29 PM


hi, i have a 4-5 month old yemen chameleon that has recently fell very sick, he has alot of trouble walking and his eyes are bulding outwards. I unfortunatly cannot afford to to take him to the vets. Have you please got a solution?

Posted by: Tom at January 6, 2009 03:44 AM


About half an hour ago I went into see my Chameleon who is now about 6 months old. She has been healthy, and strong and happy ever since i've had her. That is how i knew something was wrong as soon as i saw her as she was at the bottom of her cage not moving. I then noticed her water feeder had fallen. (this has never happened before and was set on there very securely) My fear is she was standing on it which for some odd reason she enjoys doing and sometimes sticking her front paws in and waits for the water above to drip into it. I am thinking she was on top of it and somehow knocked it down, and obviously she went down with it. I have no idea if it landed on her or not. I do know however that she seems to have an injured back leg. I have been holding her in my palm and she just lays there with her eyes closed. If i try to put her down she grabs on to me with her front feet.
I live in Salt lake city Utah and cannot find any reptile vets. Does anyone suggest what I should do from here?
I am going to continue to look for Exotic or reptile vets in the area even if i have to drive a few hours.

:(

Posted by: Amy at January 10, 2009 06:26 PM


I have a baby veiled chameleon named Kiwi.

Posted by: Bridget at February 16, 2009 06:46 PM


I have a 8 month Veiled and she hasn't eaten for a few days now and seems to be completly off her food, she is very small, (Always has been) and seems to just sit on the floor of the viv. I don't think she is carrying eggs due to her size and colouration. Any Comments?

Kirt

Posted by: Kirt at March 8, 2009 03:05 PM


Hi...
I've read the post above about the swolen neck. I have the same issue. I currenly have a male born in Oct 08 and doing really well so far but has developed a slightly swolen neck and have now noticed him "yawning" few times, I noticed this problem about 2-3 days ago with his neck he now stresses and hisses when being handled and has never done before which has now caused my concern (he usualy come to the front of the tank, a hand out and he walks on. His mouth is all clear and looks as it should (no goo) and he eats as normal and still very accurate with his tounge.
I have been dusting my crickets and locusts with calcuim and vit supp's every time i get 50 or so and add 1 pinch (not gut loading them), as previously had another male that died from a back and front leg problem that I was told was due to poor calcuim in his diet, even though i was previously gut loading the crickets but no dusting. I have since found out that this one, he likes to eat anything green from a bowl and happily drinks from a bowl too, so for the past 2 months has been eating sugar nap peas spinach brocolli cabbage green beans and spring greens from a bowl. The humidity ranges from 60% in the day and 80% night, and temps are around 25-30celcius dependant on time of day. He's been on this schedule now for about 3mths.
Any ideas on what could cause my issue?
* Should i only dust the crickets once a month so 50/200 and start gut laoding them non-green foods (as easily clears a small feeding dish full of greens a day on his own) (Suggestions of those non-green foods would be great)
* gut load all crickets with the all food and dont dust the crickets at all. (what foods that im not already using?) or
* something i'm totaly missing or doing wrong.
Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Aaron at March 31, 2009 05:13 PM


I have noticed several postings on veiled's going to the bottom of their cages and basically almost dragging the back legs around the cage and not eating and basically look like they are not feeling good. Please if anyone knows the reasons for this please tell me. This is my son't pet and I really don't want to lose him but I really cannot afford to take her to a vet right now. Even if it something just to make her comfortable till this passes or I can afford a vet. Thanks.

Posted by: Kolleen at June 12, 2009 10:05 AM


Hi,My Chamelion looks like it is very skiny and he hasent been eating anything for 2 days. Exept for the second day I got him he ate 1, and today im assuming he ate 11 out of the 15 cuz i didint see any exept 4. Back to the skinny issue I can see his ribs is that a problem, i really dnt wont to lose his please comment back

Posted by: Blake at June 27, 2009 04:42 PM


Hi, I asked a question about my velied Chamelion, and i said it was looking very skinny...im also not that sure if he is eating as well. Thanks and please comment back back i am still very worryed, please.

Posted by: Blake at July 1, 2009 07:17 PM


i just wanted 2 put my chameleons name on hear his name is (TINY) y i named him tiny is cuz i stuck him ln a jumbo cage and by 2 months he was almost full growin!!

Posted by: andrew kaplon at July 17, 2009 12:29 AM


i have a juvenile chameleon that i found dangling from her branch by her front arms. I am guessing she was like that for about 5 hours. I startled her and she tried to climb up and was so weak she started shaking. I got her onto the floor of her house where she immediately fell asleep from exhaustion. Now, four days later she's still weak, shakes when she tries to walk and cannot climb. I can tell she's in pain. Not many exotic vets around here and I cannot get her to one in the next few days. Shes still eating very well. Do you figure she's in enough pain that any old Veterinarian can go ahead and put her down or should I hold out a few more days to get her to the exotic vet? i hate for her to suffer but i hate to put her down needlessly. she's eating, she will move. I keep her fogger on for plenty of hydration. Her arms/wrists look all jacked up. I'm sure in the wild she's not survive but I can cater to her food needs if she'll mend. Thanks.

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Posted by: Gremyslepsymn at August 18, 2009 07:09 AM


Please help! We have a male veiled chemeleon named Leon, he's a super chiller. Resently(tonight) he has hide away behind his hanging pothos plant to sleep early. He is scaring us because he hasn't moved at all in hours and even when we open his enclosure and reach near him.(usually he walks away). Also he barely responds or opens his eyes. He's never done this. I did recently add a night viewing light which I had hoped would keep him warmer at night too. I won't run it tonight. I hope all he needs is sleep. Any ideas anyone. We want him to be happy and health we're sad to see him suffer if he is.
Thank you in advance.
-Jimmy

Posted by: Jimmy at August 20, 2009 09:46 PM


hey man love ur site

my chameleon cant shoot his toungue, well he can but only just the tip of it, then he brings it right back. he can aim worth shit and it takes him 3 or 4 times to get his food, i put crickets in a cup so he wouldent have to chase them, what is wrong with his tongue? i live in a small town where the vets only no about cows so there usless. what do i do

Posted by: will at September 20, 2009 09:19 PM


I had had my chameleon for about 10 months now, and in the last month, he has stopped using his tongue to eat. He just tries to bite at the insects, which can be very difficult with crickets. Any advice?

Posted by: Matt at September 29, 2009 02:35 PM


PLZ HELP.. I HAVE A 8 MONTH OLD VEILED CHAMELEON AND HE GO'S TO THE BOTTEM OF THE ENCLOSER AND SAYS A DARK BROWN AND I JUST PUT A WATERFALL IN THE 2 DAY...CAN ANY BODY HELP ME (ASAP)

Posted by: andrew kaplon at October 20, 2009 12:54 AM


my baby female veiled wont move or open her eyes its been like that for the last few days and she just sits in the same spot and sleeps all day and night

the male is in the same cage and seems to be fine
what can i do i have soaked her like the reptile store said i have put her in the steam from the shower

Posted by: Dana at October 22, 2009 11:02 PM


Hi Jeff your website has taught me so much its a blessing.I have a 6 month old veil the all the suddend acts like he cant eat he trys to stick out his tongue and grab food but seems to not be able to extend his tongue. He is also not drinking and seems to be getting very weak having trouble grasping and climbing he just wants to sit. There are no vets in my area that will see him please give me some tips on the best way to get him to drink and what you think this could be. I would just die if something happens to him please respond as soon as possible I dont no how long I have. Thank you for all the advice on the site but I would really appreciate some direct advice.

Posted by: Brandy at November 14, 2009 12:00 PM


my veiled chameleon hasnt been eatting for 3 days im pretty worried.I just started to feed him mealworms and i think he may have regurgutated one of them . He normaly will hiss at me but he hasn't for 3 days.He doesnt seem to be weak hes doing almost everything he normaly does but eatting.please help.

Posted by: caitlyn at April 7, 2010 05:36 PM


hey Jeff, I need a little help. My veiled stopped eating and drinking....has sunken eyes...mostly closed. I have been researching and found that it could be dehydration.

what do you think, shall i just keep misting the plants, will that help?

Posted by: Shiven at June 4, 2010 01:15 AM


I didn't buy it, it just came to me..i just opened the door and there it was, looking at me :)....i luv it so much...

Posted by: Shiven at June 4, 2010 01:17 AM


My 7 month female cham, is trying to lay eggs, in the bottom when i put a laying bed in she heads back up, should i throw something on the floor, I have given her privacy, she will not eat anything

Posted by: brenda at June 26, 2010 01:08 PM


Hey, I really need some help ! =(
Recently got a Veiled cham, about 3 months old.
The first day, it ate 1 mealworm, but sins that it haven't eaten anything... :(
Now 4 days have passed sins it ate last, and its getting skinnier... Keeps drinking 1-2 times a day from a pipette, but no food.

Have tried feeding it mealworms, crickets, you name it. But it doesen't even bother paying attention to the food... just climbs away... always climbing... please help me =S =S

Posted by: Benti at July 20, 2010 10:12 AM


My veiled Chameleon Tilly has started to grab at her own legs and tail. When she does this she acts as if she doesn't understand what's going on, gets frustrated and holds on tighter, she's starting to really injure herself with her claws its sad to see er doing this to herself. If you have any ideas on what might be going on I would appreciate any advice at this time.

thxs

Posted by: Amy at October 5, 2010 04:30 PM


My 6 mo. old male panther chameleon had to be sedated because of a clogged nasal duct, he is very healthy and during the blood draw his tail turned black and the vet said to give him 3 - 4 days to see if it comes back, he can use it and acts fine, any chances it will turn back to color or is there anything I can do to help? It has only been like this today.

Thanks Abbie Conroy

Posted by: Abbie at October 19, 2010 09:02 PM


My veiled chameleon barly eats. he loves hornworms but wont eat crickted anymore. He will prob eat 5 a week. He is about 9 months old. He also has not shed in 2 months. Why would he stop shedding? any suggestions?

Posted by: Mary at February 14, 2011 05:43 PM


hi My baby veiled chameleon Roscoe is always at the top of his cage and wont eat and last night I tried to move him of the light and he bit me.Is that strange?I want to get him a mate but I want to wait till hes not so aggressive.plz help

Posted by: dexter at February 18, 2011 12:22 PM


hi My baby veiled chameleon Roscoe is always at the top of his cage and wont eat and last night I tried to move him of the light and he bit me.Is that strange?I want to get him a mate but I want to wait till hes not so aggressive.plz help

If he is a baby, he's going to spend a few weeks trying to get out of his cage. Just leave him alone, for awhile until he stops climbing around the sides of the cage. Mine did this for awhile too, just don't mess with him until he gets accustomed to his new home.

Posted by: Chameleonlover at February 28, 2011 04:10 PM


hi i have a baby veiled chameleon and i just noticed that he isnt crawling and climbing like normal. it looks like he is dragging his back right leg and favoring it, and he uses his left one perfectly? is this normal or is he hurt and in bed condition?

Posted by: jordan at May 11, 2011 05:36 PM


Lost count of the amount of times I have read on here "I can't afford to take my chameleon to the vet" DON'T BUY AN ANIMAL IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO LOOK AFTER IT.

Posted by: Lynda at June 22, 2011 02:38 AM


My sisters panther cham has its bottom lip .. i guess rolled under her and she has been hanging upside down tongue fully extended . We took her in to help cham cuz sister is out of state and person she left it with was " to busy" to properly look after cham. Cham hasnt started to crew/pull etc at it yet just lets it hang there i moisten it and after a few mins of me continueing to sprinkle water on it(have no mist bottle as of yet so i hold her and tongue) until she brings it back in her mouth and then i put her back. Tho to me she seems content with me holding her tho to be honest i know hardly anything about reptiles as im usally sterotypical girl. lol ..I need to know is cuz she may be dehydraded why her lip is like that i read in comment above about upside down tongue thing.

Posted by: Kaida at September 14, 2011 08:50 AM


My female chameleon is having some problems, she never wants to be awake and when ever we find her she's at the bottom of her tank. She doesn't have a strong grip to anything and her tongue wont go back into her mouth. What's wrong with her?

Posted by: Alice Guzman at March 10, 2013 10:49 AM


Also, she wont eat and she looks horrible.

Posted by: Alice Guzman at March 10, 2013 10:53 AM


I have a 6 month old veils chameleon he is in his cage all screen 24x24x48 with dripper and live ficus plant. I gut load my crickets with the flukers orange cricket diet. For some.reason he can't use his front legs right they keep grasping his crest or face. He is drinking great infact more than usual but not eating that I have seen please help

Posted by: ashley at March 19, 2013 07:21 PM


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