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October 21, 2006

Philosophy Department Censors "Patently Offensive" Speech

The Uncriticizable Leftist Religion: Government

We read:

"In early September, a Marquette University administrator removed a Barry quote about the federal government from Ph.D. student Stuart Ditsler's office door because the quote was "patently offensive." .... In late August, Ditsler posted a quote by Dave Barry on his office door in the philosophy department. The quote read, "As Americans we must always remember that we all have a common enemy, an enemy that is dangerous, powerful, and relentless. I refer, of course, to the federal government."

On September 5, Philosophy Department Chair James South sent Ditsler an e-mail stating that he had received several complaints and therefore removed the quote. He wrote, "While I am a strong supporter of academic freedom, I'm afraid that hallways and office doors are not `free-speech zones.' If material is patently offensive and has no obvious academic import or university sanction, I have little choice but to take note."


So a perfectly respectable conservative view -- of a sort often expressed by Ronald Reagan -- "has no obvious academic import". That is itself a revealing statement about the intellectual limitations of the university concerned.

Tongue Tied

It's what this nation is becoming. And will. Unless you do your part to put it to an end.

Posted by Jeff at October 21, 2006 11:31 PM


Jeff: I'll presume that this is also the same Jeff that posted on June 16th regarding the draft, Vietnam, etc.

You are so fundamentally wrong. However, you seem smart enough to pause for a long spell (say 10 minutes a day for the next month)and ponder this: do you recognize the stark irony that you would not be able to levy the criticisms that you do without the very institutions (including the draft of the past)that you so thoroughly despise?

I am not criticizing you, but I'll give you a pass. You're probably young. As Winston Churchill is often quoted, "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain".


Posted by: Ken at October 24, 2006 09:47 AM

Okay, that way of disagreeing with me is definitely a personal favorite. If I wanted to make myself look good, I'd pretend to be someone who disagrees with me and I'd respond to my posts in just that way.


Posted by: Jeff at October 24, 2006 04:22 PM

Has anyone considered it could have been a "conservative" perspective that led to the censorship? After all the quote could be seen as an attack on America in the same way verbal attacks on George Bush are treated as attacks on America by right wing pundits. Most leftists wouldn't object to a Reaganite or Bush government being cast as the enemy and there are a lot of right wing profs out there.

As a 47 year old, fully brained, liberal-socialist I would not object to the sign being on the door. I would just post my own reply, "How can a government of the people, by the people, for the people be the enemy of the people". If you don't like government it's who you put in to it, not government itself that is the problem.

As for Winston, he was amazing in many ways and a complete racist, pompous, elitist ass in others. Just cause he said it doesn't make it right. He's just satifying his own ego.

Posted by: Wayne at January 12, 2007 05:31 PM

Funny how you can read a post and respond without seeing things like who the columnists are. That may explain the biases in the analysis.

Posted by: Wayne at January 12, 2007 05:34 PM

Ah, the famous Churchill quote so freely shared by otherwise bright Conservatives.

Winston said a lot of things over the years, some witty, some pithy, and some just over the top. But this bit of profundity . . . he NEVER said it.

Click here: http://www.winstonchurchill.org/i4a/pages/index.cfm?pageid=112

Posted by: G. Young at February 27, 2007 01:13 PM

I came here following a simple post on XHTML markup, but this post caught my eye.

The government is a monopoly that forces me to pay(taxes) for goods and services(war?) that I do not want. As the constitution states, I am free to criticize this institution as I see fit. This is what a 'free' country is all about. Vietnam could have never happened, and things would probably be better off. Communism has failed. Fascism, however, continues.

Posted by: Shaun at April 2, 2007 02:09 PM

As to the "not conservative = no brain" quote, it doesn't matter who said it. The great body of historical evidence, logic, and common sense verifies and endorses it. Of course, that also explains why most "educational" institutions -- and especially the preponderance of "professors" who so clearly demonstrate it -- hate and deride it. Darkness hates light, (guess where that is from!).

Posted by: Wayne R at September 10, 2007 06:35 AM

I'm drunk as a skunk on a Saturday night, but even in my condishion, as it were, and listening to John Fahey, as he was circa late 60's, I can recognize, at 60, the truth of the matter: "a kid who's not a liberal (I loved Che!) has no heart; an old man (i.e., moi, et al.) who's not a conservative has no mind." So what's you kids' excuse? Putin too rough for you (Can you say 'Litvenenko'?) Chinese too inscrutable? Osama too dang nasty (he wants what liberals want. cf. D'Souza)? Ah, but at least you have the colleges. Poot.

Posted by: Rufus Lee at January 13, 2008 12:26 AM

Maybe that collage adminastrator should bend over and allow everyone to give them a swift kick in the rear good and hard

Posted by: Flu-Bird at October 10, 2009 10:08 AM

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